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		<title>By: John Alexander</title>
		<link>http://hortchat.com/info/bay-laurel/comment-page-1#comment-29320</link>
		<dc:creator>John Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Hortchat, I would really appreciate your advice, I don&#039;t know which Zone I am in, but I live in London, England. U.K.
I planted a Bay Laurel which was about 8 inches, 20 years ago when I moved to my home, I had only ever thought of Bay trees as being like shrubs, about 10 feet maximum.
It is now approximately about 25 - 30 feet tall, and as I do not own my home, the Housing Association that I rent from, want to cut it down as it is very close to the next door property i.e. the trunk is nearly touching the wall next door, about 2cm from the wall.
I have come to terms with the fact that if it has to come down, then so be it, but I really do wonder if it will cause damage by it&#039;s growth, or by it&#039;s root system. I have heard it has a shallow root system, and I do think that if it was going to cause damage by the root system, then it would have done so already and there is no evidence that it has done any damage.
I am trying to save it, but I understand the reasons the Housing Association have for wanting to cut it down, so I would really appreciate some true and honest advice.
I am also thinking of taking cuttings to grow in pots if it does have too come down, and would like to know the best way of doing this at this time of year i.e. November 9th 2009.
Yours sincerely.
John



&lt;blockquote&gt;Hi John
It&#039;s hard to loose and old friend. To bad that it wasn&#039;t in a large container so you could have controlled the growth. Regardless of whether the roots will cause damage, if the tree is too close to the building it has the potential of becoming a liability. Is it possible to dig it up and move it to another location?
You can take cuttings and start a new plant but be aware that they are difficult and slow to root. 
To root bay laurel take a 4 inch cutting of new growth and strip away all but the top 2 leaves, dip in rooting hormone and plant in a 1/2 sand 1/2 peat mix. Cover with plastic to help keep the soil moist and maintain humidity. Place cuttings in a warm spot with filtered light. Heal cuttings (part of main stem attached) also work .  Cuttings can be taken 8 weeks after new spring growth and rooting can take up to 6 weeks. Late summer/early fall cuttings are slower to root and will take several months. Bay laurel can also propagated by layering in spring.
Good luck with propagating your bay laurel. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Hortchat, I would really appreciate your advice, I don&#8217;t know which Zone I am in, but I live in London, England. U.K.<br />
I planted a Bay Laurel which was about 8 inches, 20 years ago when I moved to my home, I had only ever thought of Bay trees as being like shrubs, about 10 feet maximum.<br />
It is now approximately about 25 &#8211; 30 feet tall, and as I do not own my home, the Housing Association that I rent from, want to cut it down as it is very close to the next door property i.e. the trunk is nearly touching the wall next door, about 2cm from the wall.<br />
I have come to terms with the fact that if it has to come down, then so be it, but I really do wonder if it will cause damage by it&#8217;s growth, or by it&#8217;s root system. I have heard it has a shallow root system, and I do think that if it was going to cause damage by the root system, then it would have done so already and there is no evidence that it has done any damage.<br />
I am trying to save it, but I understand the reasons the Housing Association have for wanting to cut it down, so I would really appreciate some true and honest advice.<br />
I am also thinking of taking cuttings to grow in pots if it does have too come down, and would like to know the best way of doing this at this time of year i.e. November 9th 2009.<br />
Yours sincerely.<br />
John</p>
<blockquote><p>Hi John<br />
It&#8217;s hard to loose and old friend. To bad that it wasn&#8217;t in a large container so you could have controlled the growth. Regardless of whether the roots will cause damage, if the tree is too close to the building it has the potential of becoming a liability. Is it possible to dig it up and move it to another location?<br />
You can take cuttings and start a new plant but be aware that they are difficult and slow to root.<br />
To root bay laurel take a 4 inch cutting of new growth and strip away all but the top 2 leaves, dip in rooting hormone and plant in a 1/2 sand 1/2 peat mix. Cover with plastic to help keep the soil moist and maintain humidity. Place cuttings in a warm spot with filtered light. Heal cuttings (part of main stem attached) also work .  Cuttings can be taken 8 weeks after new spring growth and rooting can take up to 6 weeks. Late summer/early fall cuttings are slower to root and will take several months. Bay laurel can also propagated by layering in spring.<br />
Good luck with propagating your bay laurel. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Glennie Gordon</title>
		<link>http://hortchat.com/info/bay-laurel/comment-page-1#comment-28123</link>
		<dc:creator>Glennie Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bay leaf miner&lt;/strong&gt;
I have acquired a mature bay tree (20 yrs old?). It spent the summer outdoors and is now moved into the house. I notice tiny areas in the leaves that are discoloured and some areas with perforations. Not scale infestation. Looks like a leaf miner. Is this possible? Any ideas and should I treat this somehow or just wait and see? Leaves are not wilted and there is a bit of new growth.



&lt;blockquote&gt;HI Glennie
The perforated spots are probably from outdoor insects feeding on the plant.  It possible to to get leaf miner.  They are flat larvae that live between leaf layers. If you can see some pick off the leaves.  Check your plants while they are indoors to make sure no other visitors ( scale, spider mites, mealy bugs) have hitchhicked in the soil.  &lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Bay leaf miner</strong><br />
I have acquired a mature bay tree (20 yrs old?). It spent the summer outdoors and is now moved into the house. I notice tiny areas in the leaves that are discoloured and some areas with perforations. Not scale infestation. Looks like a leaf miner. Is this possible? Any ideas and should I treat this somehow or just wait and see? Leaves are not wilted and there is a bit of new growth.</p>
<blockquote><p>HI Glennie<br />
The perforated spots are probably from outdoor insects feeding on the plant.  It possible to to get leaf miner.  They are flat larvae that live between leaf layers. If you can see some pick off the leaves.  Check your plants while they are indoors to make sure no other visitors ( scale, spider mites, mealy bugs) have hitchhicked in the soil.  </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Audrey Davis</title>
		<link>http://hortchat.com/info/bay-laurel/comment-page-1#comment-20479</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 11:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently bought a Bay Laurel &quot;tree&quot; it is only about 18&quot; tall but it has 2 distinct stalks and i would like to create a topiary look,  I was wondering is it possible to seperate these and make 2 plants out of it? It looks to be a young plant. It is healthy and now in a 8&quot; pot so the 2 stalks are not close enough to twist into a single one Can i cut down through the roots between these 2 stalks without harming the plant?
Thanks for your input...Aud



&lt;blockquote&gt;HI Audrey
You can carefully separate both stems and plant each one in individual pots. I would wet the soil and knock out the bay out of its pot and then separate the roots instead of cutting them.  Replant and place in a shaded area for a week or so.  &lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently bought a Bay Laurel &#8220;tree&#8221; it is only about 18&#8243; tall but it has 2 distinct stalks and i would like to create a topiary look,  I was wondering is it possible to seperate these and make 2 plants out of it? It looks to be a young plant. It is healthy and now in a 8&#8243; pot so the 2 stalks are not close enough to twist into a single one Can i cut down through the roots between these 2 stalks without harming the plant?<br />
Thanks for your input&#8230;Aud</p>
<blockquote><p>HI Audrey<br />
You can carefully separate both stems and plant each one in individual pots. I would wet the soil and knock out the bay out of its pot and then separate the roots instead of cutting them.  Replant and place in a shaded area for a week or so.  </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Abigail</title>
		<link>http://hortchat.com/info/bay-laurel/comment-page-1#comment-14079</link>
		<dc:creator>Abigail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We recently moved house and I replanted my Bay tree in the ground after several years of it being in a container. The leaves have now started to go from a healthy green to a yellowish-brown, and have black spots. It is quite a large bush, about 3 ft tall. Did it just object to being moved, or is it something more serious?



&lt;blockquote&gt;Hi Abigail
It may be both.  When transplanted a plant is in its weakened state and can become suceptible to disease.  It may be shedding some of its leaves to accommodate the &quot;damaged&quot; root system.  As for the spots on the leaves-it may be a leaf spot of some type perhaps Anthracnose.  Hopefully, your bay tree will recover.  If new growth also has leaf spot then take a sample to your local extension office to find out what it is.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We recently moved house and I replanted my Bay tree in the ground after several years of it being in a container. The leaves have now started to go from a healthy green to a yellowish-brown, and have black spots. It is quite a large bush, about 3 ft tall. Did it just object to being moved, or is it something more serious?</p>
<blockquote><p>Hi Abigail<br />
It may be both.  When transplanted a plant is in its weakened state and can become suceptible to disease.  It may be shedding some of its leaves to accommodate the &#8220;damaged&#8221; root system.  As for the spots on the leaves-it may be a leaf spot of some type perhaps Anthracnose.  Hopefully, your bay tree will recover.  If new growth also has leaf spot then take a sample to your local extension office to find out what it is.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: c.warwick</title>
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		<dc:creator>c.warwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is the best treatment for my &lt;strong&gt;bay tree&lt;/strong&gt;.  It has got a black sticky matter on the leaves.  I have tried fairy liquid spray.  What else can I try.
  


&lt;blockquote&gt;Hi
Sound like your bay tree may have scale-an insect that favors bay.  Our article on&lt;a href=&quot;http://hortchat.com/info/category/insects/scale&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; scale&lt;/a&gt; has other suggestions for treatment.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is the best treatment for my <strong>bay tree</strong>.  It has got a black sticky matter on the leaves.  I have tried fairy liquid spray.  What else can I try.</p>
<blockquote><p>Hi<br />
Sound like your bay tree may have scale-an insect that favors bay.  Our article on<a href="http://hortchat.com/info/category/insects/scale"  rel="nofollow"> scale</a> has other suggestions for treatment.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
		<link>http://hortchat.com/info/bay-laurel/comment-page-1#comment-5772</link>
		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a &lt;strong&gt;Bay Tree &lt;/strong&gt;which for the past 7 years and until now it has been a very healthy specimen.
I noticed approx 2 Months ago that it looked a little sad and the leaves were turning yellow. I had never repotted the tree since I had it &amp; so presumed it needed a larger container.
After repotting we had a great deal of rain and having changed the clay container for a resin style I noticed no improvement in the colouration or health. It is now June and the tree is looking very poor, the leave are withered and a brownish yellow.
Any ideas?



&lt;blockquote&gt;Hi Danielle
In addition to transplant shock, the extra moisture from the rain may have stressed the roots more. It may be that your bay laurel was too wet and the roots started to rot. You don’t mention wether the pot drains from the bottom. Bay leaf likes well drained, loose soil. Put it in a dry, semi shade area so that it can recup and grow more roots to maintain the leaves. You can also prune it back by 1/3. It’s not too late to send out new growth from the nodes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a <strong>Bay Tree </strong>which for the past 7 years and until now it has been a very healthy specimen.<br />
I noticed approx 2 Months ago that it looked a little sad and the leaves were turning yellow. I had never repotted the tree since I had it &#038; so presumed it needed a larger container.<br />
After repotting we had a great deal of rain and having changed the clay container for a resin style I noticed no improvement in the colouration or health. It is now June and the tree is looking very poor, the leave are withered and a brownish yellow.<br />
Any ideas?</p>
<blockquote><p>Hi Danielle<br />
In addition to transplant shock, the extra moisture from the rain may have stressed the roots more. It may be that your bay laurel was too wet and the roots started to rot. You don’t mention wether the pot drains from the bottom. Bay leaf likes well drained, loose soil. Put it in a dry, semi shade area so that it can recup and grow more roots to maintain the leaves. You can also prune it back by 1/3. It’s not too late to send out new growth from the nodes.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: tandra mathis</title>
		<link>http://hortchat.com/info/bay-laurel/comment-page-1#comment-4579</link>
		<dc:creator>tandra mathis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have a &lt;strong&gt;bay laurel &lt;/strong&gt;that has grown good. i brought in for winter. now the leaves are looking different color &amp; feels like they are drying out. i check soil and top inch is little dry, but past inch it&#039;s moist. the trunk still looks green &amp; has some new growth. the&lt;strong&gt; leaf color change starts @ tip &amp; works down leaf&lt;/strong&gt;. it kind of makes me think it&#039;s drying from lack of water, but like i said soil is moist. i don&#039;t know alot about the plant, just that i cook w/ bay leaf alot, i love the plant, &amp; not very winter hardy,
i live in zone 7/8, Bonham, Tx. can you help? i&#039;ve search the web, but only thing i know more about plant is history, &amp; resist insects &amp; dieases.
thanks   tandra

&lt;blockquote&gt;Hi Tandra
There are many factors that can cause browning leaf tips: overwatering, underwatering, low humidity, too high, too low temperatures and drastic temperature change.  The damaged leaves will eventually fall off and new growth will replace and fill in.  

After more research I found that  tan margins on bay leaves can be caused by &lt;strong&gt;soluble salt damage&lt;/strong&gt; to the roots. An accumulation of soil salts (mineral deposits)  from fertilizers and or dry soil. This happens when you don&#039;t water properly.  Kncok the plant out of the pot and check the roots. You should have creamy white roots, if not then there is root damage due to soluble salt accumulation.    To correct this problem, leach out the excess soil salts by watering your plant thoroughly to get all the roots wet.  Water until it flows out of the bottom of the pot and then repeat once more. Excess salts will wash out with the draining water. 
To avoid this problem- each time you water be sure it drains  from the bottom and re-water when the top 2 inches feel dry. The time span between watering should be longer in winter as plants are not actively growing. See above picture&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have a <strong>bay laurel </strong>that has grown good. i brought in for winter. now the leaves are looking different color &#038; feels like they are drying out. i check soil and top inch is little dry, but past inch it&#8217;s moist. the trunk still looks green &#038; has some new growth. the<strong> leaf color change starts @ tip &#038; works down leaf</strong>. it kind of makes me think it&#8217;s drying from lack of water, but like i said soil is moist. i don&#8217;t know alot about the plant, just that i cook w/ bay leaf alot, i love the plant, &#038; not very winter hardy,<br />
i live in zone 7/8, Bonham, Tx. can you help? i&#8217;ve search the web, but only thing i know more about plant is history, &#038; resist insects &#038; dieases.<br />
thanks   tandra</p>
<blockquote><p>Hi Tandra<br />
There are many factors that can cause browning leaf tips: overwatering, underwatering, low humidity, too high, too low temperatures and drastic temperature change.  The damaged leaves will eventually fall off and new growth will replace and fill in.  </p>
<p>After more research I found that  tan margins on bay leaves can be caused by <strong>soluble salt damage</strong> to the roots. An accumulation of soil salts (mineral deposits)  from fertilizers and or dry soil. This happens when you don&#8217;t water properly.  Kncok the plant out of the pot and check the roots. You should have creamy white roots, if not then there is root damage due to soluble salt accumulation.    To correct this problem, leach out the excess soil salts by watering your plant thoroughly to get all the roots wet.  Water until it flows out of the bottom of the pot and then repeat once more. Excess salts will wash out with the draining water.<br />
To avoid this problem- each time you water be sure it drains  from the bottom and re-water when the top 2 inches feel dry. The time span between watering should be longer in winter as plants are not actively growing. See above picture</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Waverly Fitzgerald</title>
		<link>http://hortchat.com/info/bay-laurel/comment-page-1#comment-3931</link>
		<dc:creator>Waverly Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Zone 8 and have a very healthy bay laurel tree. Was told it wouldn&#039;t make it through the winters outside but it has for over ten years now. If it got very cold, I was told I could protect it by putting a blanket over it, but I have never had to resort to that. There&#039;s another bay laurel tree flourishing in my neighborhood in Seattle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Zone 8 and have a very healthy bay laurel tree. Was told it wouldn&#8217;t make it through the winters outside but it has for over ten years now. If it got very cold, I was told I could protect it by putting a blanket over it, but I have never had to resort to that. There&#8217;s another bay laurel tree flourishing in my neighborhood in Seattle.</p>
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		<title>By: Debra MacPhail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debra MacPhail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where can I buy a bay laurel?  Is it hardy in zone 8?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Bay Laurel is hardy in zone 7-10.  Might find some on the internet or even your local nursery.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where can I buy a bay laurel?  Is it hardy in zone 8?</p>
<blockquote><p>Bay Laurel is hardy in zone 7-10.  Might find some on the internet or even your local nursery.</p></blockquote>
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